Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes

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Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Board.

Minutes:

No apology for absence was received in respect of this meeting.

2.

Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.

Minutes:

On behalf of the Board, the Chair informed the meeting that Item 6, “Greenwich Reach, Land at Creek Road/Norway Street/Thames Street and Deptford Creek, and Item 7, “Junction of Glaisher Street and Riverside Walk, Deptford SE8 (Between Greenwich Reach and Millennium Quay” would be deferred for a site visit, in order to enable Members to gain an insight into the impact of the proposed developments.

 

The Chair also announced that various correspondence received in relation to items on the agenda had been tabled at the meeting.

3.

Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 41 KB

Members to declare any personal and prejudicial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

 

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Minutes:

Councillor Roberts declared a personal interest, advising the meeting that he periodically receives briefings on development progress in relation to:

·        Item 5 “Land to the East of the O2 (Known as Plot NO301, Greenwich Peninsula);

·        Item 11 “Proposal to modify the Deed of Planning Obligation dated 23 February 2004 by agreement under Section 106A(1)(a) of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 and other powers in respect of Development at Greenwich Peninsula, SE10”; and

·        Item 12 “Plots NO601, NO602, NO607, NO608, NO504 and NO506, Greenwich Peninsula, Greenwich, SE10”.

 

The meeting noted that Councillor Roberts would leave the room during discussions on the items for which he had declared an interest, and that he would not vote on the proposals.

4.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 73 KB

Members are requested to confirm as accurate records the minutes of the meetings held on 25 April 2013 and 28 May 2013.

 

No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.

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Minutes:

Resolved –

 

That the Minutes of the Planning Board meetings held on 25 April 2013 and 28 May 2013, be confirmed and signed as true and accurate records.

5.

Land to the West of the O2 (Known as Plot NO301, Greenwich Peninsula) pdf icon PDF 297 KB

To grant internal and external alterations as Minor Material Amendments and Variation of Condition 1 (Approved Plans) and Condition 59 (Serviced Apartments) of Planning Permission, dated 30.3.2012 (Ref: 10/0140/F) for the development of a 21-storey, 452 bedroom hotel and 23-storey building with 100 serviced residential apartments.

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Decision:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That permission be granted for internal and external alterations as Minor Material Amendments and Variation of Condition 1 (Approved Plans) and Condition 59 (Serviced Apartments) of Planning Permission, dated 30.3.2012 (Ref: 10/0140/F) for the development of a 21-storey, 452 bedroom hotel and 23-storey building with 100 serviced residential apartments, subject to:

 

·                   The satisfactory completion of a Supplemental Section 106 legal agreement;

·                   The issuing of a new planning permission in respect of Ref: 10/0140/F for the development of a 21-storey, 452 hotel with ancillary accommodation including health spa, ballroom, special events space and meeting facilities, plus a 23-storey building  with 100 serviced residential apartments, together with associated under croft parking, servicing and landscaping.

·                   Conditions set out in Section 3.5 of the report.

 

Minutes:

Councillor Roberts declared a personal interest, advising that he periodically receives briefings on progress in relation to this Item.  Councillor Roberts left the room and did not take part in the discussions or vote on the proposal.

 

The Principal Planning Officer gave an illustrative presentation to the report, recommending to the Board to approve arrangements for Minor Material Amendments under S73 of the Town and Country Planning Act to vary Condition 1 (Approved Plan) and Condition 59 (Serviced Apartments) of Planning Permission dated 30 March 2012.

 

The Board noted the report, and that an addendum to it was circulated at the meeting.  It was recognised that the application site consisted of a 3-hectar area within Plot MO301on the Greenwich Peninsula Masterplan that was approved for development on 23February 2004.

 

In response to questions raised, the Officer advised the Board that the details of a full response to the consultation on the proposal was outlined under Section 7 of the report, together with comments from the Greenwich Conservation Group and the Greenwich Society.  There had been no objections from residents in regards to the application. 

 

The Officer further confirmed to the Board that the original design approved for development on the proposed site was for a hotel operation that was no longer viable.  It was clarified that the current proposal would ensure the completion of the Supplementary Planning Legal Agreement, so that the obligations in the original Section 106 Agreement that was approved on 30 March 2012 and the current application could be included in the revised Masterplan.

 

With regards to an enquiry about the proposed modification, the Board received confirmation by the Officer that 10% of the dwellings would be designed for wheelchair access.  The changes would enable the replacement of five floors with hotel suites to the original Serviced Apartment Blocks.  In spite of a slight reduction in the floor space, the number of hotel bedrooms would remain the same as that approved in the original Section 106 Agreement on 30 March 2012.  The revisions to the height and layout of the Hotel and Service Apartment blocks would enhance the external appearance of the blocks.  The Officer added that that the details of the facing materials for the two buildings would be submitted for consideration at a future meeting of the Board.

In considering submissions made at the meeting, Members commented that the application had not deviated from planning rules.  It was

 

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That permission be granted for internal and external alterations as Minor Material Amendments and Variation of Condition 1 (Approved Plans) and Condition 59 (Serviced Apartments) of Planning Permission, dated 30.3.2012 (Ref: 10/0140/F) for the development of a 21-storey, 452 bedroom hotel and 23-storey building with 100 serviced residential apartments, subject to:

 

·                    The satisfactory completion of a Supplemental Section 106 legal agreement;

·                    The issuing of a new planning permission in respect of Ref:10/0140/F for the development of a 21-storey, 452 hotel with ancillary accommodation including health spa, ballroom, special events space and meeting  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

6.

Greenwich Reach, Land at Creek Road/Norway Street/Thames Street and Deptford Creek pdf icon PDF 234 KB

To approve the application for amendments to planning permission dated 09/01/2008 (ref: 05/1386/F) to increase the height of Blocks K1 and K2 from 4-storeys to 6-storeys to provide restaurant/bar on ground and first floors and 32 residential units on the upper floors.

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Decision:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That the application for amendments to planning permission dated 09/01/2008 (ref: 05/1386/F) to increase the height of Blocks K1 and K2 from 4-storeys to 6-storeys to provide restaurant/bar on ground and first floors and 32 residential units on the upper floors be deferred for a site visit, in order to enable Members of the Board to gain an insight into the impact of the proposed development.

Minutes:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That consideration of the application for amendments to planning permission dated 09/01/2008 (ref: 05/1386/F) to increase the height of Blocks K1 and K2 from 4-storeys to 6-storeys to provide restaurant/bar on ground and first floors and 32 residential units on the upper floors be deferred for a site visit, in order to enable Members of the Board to gain an insight into the impact of the proposed development.

7.

Junction of Glaisher Street and Riverside Walk, Deptford SE8 (Between Greenwich Reach and Millennium Quay pdf icon PDF 239 KB

To grant planning permission for the construction of a pedestrian swing bridge over Deptford Creek.

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Decision:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That planning permission for the construction of a pedestrian swing bridge over Deptford Creek be deferred for a site visit, in order to enable Members of the Board to gain an insight into the impact of the proposed development.

Minutes:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That consideration of the application for the construction of a pedestrian swing bridge over Deptford Creek be deferred for a site visit, in order to enable Members of the Board to gain an insight into the impact of the proposed development.

8.

Land adjacent to the Plumstead Portal site, White Hart Avenue, Thamesmead SE28 0GW pdf icon PDF 253 KB

To grant planning permission for the installation of a temporary railhead facility.

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Decision:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That planning permission be granted for the installation of a temporary railhead facility, comprising stabling for engineering trains, engineering trains maintenance and cleaning facility, materials and waste storage, welfare and other accommodation, high voltage and low voltage power supplies, signalling and vehicle parking  with associated permanent earthworks, drainage, fencing, retaining walls, highway access points and  electricity sub-station, subject to:

 

·                    Conditions in sections 3of the main report

·                    A range of measures to mitigate against the impact of the development on the neighbouring allotment holders, to be secured, subject to negotiations within a legal agreement

·                    The reinstatement of the land upon completion of the works.

·                    Amended conditions set out in section 2 of the addendum report that was tabled at the meeting

 

and additional requirements:

 

·                    That there will be some enhancement measures to the   proposed permanent wall; and

·                     To secure within the Legal Agreement participation with Greenwich Local Labour and Business to ensure that employment opportunities that arise from the development are open to residents in the Borough.

Minutes:

The Assistant Area Planning Manager gave an illustrative presentation of the report, recommending to the Board to grant planning permission for the installation of a temporary railhead facility.

 

The Board noted the report, and that an addendum to it was circulated at the meeting.  It was recognised that the erection of the temporary railhead with associated facilities was necessary to support the construction at the Plumstead Portal site where tunnelling works for the development of Crossrail is currently taking place.

 

In response to questions raised, the Officer confirmed to the Board that the proposed railhead facility would start to operate from later in the year and up to 2017.   An assessment of the site and the proposed development showed that there would be no adverse impact on properties in the surrounding area, and the site primarily consisted of trees and shrubs.  Notwithstanding that, a range of measures would be secured by legal agreement to help mitigate the impact of the development on neighbouring allotments.

 

In considering submissions made at the meeting, Members suggested that enhancement measures to the permanent wall to be erected on the site should form part of the mitigating measures, and that steps should be taken to ensure local residents benefit from job opportunities as a result of the development.  It was

 

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That planning permission be granted for the installation of a temporary railhead facility, comprising stabling for engineering trains, engineering trains maintenance and cleaning facility, materials and waste storage, welfare and other accommodation, high voltage and low voltage power supplies, signalling and vehicle parking  with associated permanent earthworks, drainage, fencing, retaining walls, highway access points and  electricity sub-station, subject to:

 

·                   Conditions in sections 3 of the main report

·                   A range of measures to mitigate against the impact of the development on the neighbouring allotment holders, to be secured, subject to negotiations within a legal agreement;

·                   The reinstatement of the land upon completion of the works;

·                   Amended conditions set out in section 2 of the addendum report that was tabled at the meeting

 

and additional requirements:

 

·                    That there will be enhancement measures to the proposed permanent wall; and

·                    To secure within the Legal Agreement participation with Greenwich Local Labour and Business to ensure that employment opportunities that arise from the development are open to residents of the Borough.

 

9.

6 Mitre Passage, Greenwich Peninsula pdf icon PDF 175 KB

To grant full planning permission for a change of use of part of the ground floor from retail (A1/A2/A3/A4/A5), offices and a community police office (B1) to D2 for a gym including installation of a new mezzanine floor, new entrance, curtain walling and an additional 160m² external exercise.

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Decision:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That full planning permission be granted for a change of use of part of the ground floor from retail (A1/A2/A3/A4/A5), offices and a community police office (B1) to D2 for a gym including installation of a new mezzanine floor, new entrance, curtain walling and an additional 160m² external exercise area, subject to:

 

(i)          Conditions and Informatives set out in sections 3.2 and 3.3 of the report

(ii)         The satisfactory completion of a legal agreement to secure the planning obligations set out in section 15 of the report.

 

and a further requirement

 

·                    That the Local Authority negotiate with the developers via a Section 106 Legal Agreement, a management strategy to control how the development is operated.

Minutes:

The Planning Manager (Major Development) gave an illustrative presentation to the report, recommending to the Board to grant full planning permission for a change of use of the vacant part of the ground floor of 6 Mitre Passage to a gym facility.

 

The Board noted the report, and that the application site was located within an office development to the south east of Peninsula Square on the Greenwich Peninsula.  It was recognised that the proposal would amend a scheme that was approved on 23 December 2009 for the construction of retail and office spaces, and to that approved on 20 January 2010 in relation to a space for a community police office.

 

In response to an enquiry, the Officer confirmed to the Board that the proposed gym would comprise of new technologies, products and services to embrace the digital outlook of the Peninsula.  The arrangements were aimed at adding value to customers’ experience.  It was stated that no additional car or cycle parking would be erected at the site, and that the existing loading bay to the south of the site would be used for delivery vehicles.

 

A representative on behalf of the applicant, Greenwich Leisure Limited (GLL), responded to questions raised at the meeting.  The Board was advised that out of the 100 electronic machines to be installed in the proposed gym, 60 would have touchable screens with lights and large fonts.  Thus, partially-sighted people would be able to program exercise activities and timings on the equipment.   The Board also received confirmation that seven full-time permanent job positions would be available once the facility becomes operational.  In addition to that, there would be several casual jobs.  Staff would be available at the facility during the opening hours. 

 

In light of a request by the Board to roll out the digital technology to be introduced in the proposed facility to other GLL leisure facilities in the borough, the GLL representative informed that the proposal was a joint submission.   Thus, any decision by GLL in relation to the application would have to be agreed with the other party.

 

The Board sought advice on whether the Council could negotiate with GLL as the sole operator on operational matters.  The Legal Officer stated that that could not be done.  However, the Council could control the arrangements via a management strategy. 

 

In considering submissions made at the meeting, Members expressed a view that the application had been recommended as acceptable in planning terms, and that there had been no objection to the proposal.  It was stated that consideration should be given to control operational matters via a management strategy.  It was

 

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That full planning permission be granted for a change of use of part of the ground floor from retail (A1/A2/A3/A4/A5), offices and a community police office (B1) to D2 for a gym including installation of a new mezzanine floor, new entrance, curtain walling and an additional 160m² external exercise area, subject to:

 

(i)          Conditions and Informatives set out in sections  ...  view the full minutes text for item 9.

10.

HMP Thameside, Griffin Manor Way, Thamesmead, London, SE28 0FJ pdf icon PDF 258 KB

To grant planning permission for the part demolition of security wall and work department buildings and the erection of a new prison houseblock for 216 cells, multi storey car park, industries buildings, garage buildings, water plant room, security fence and wall, basketball court, landscaping and surface car park.

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Decision:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That planning permission be granted for the part demolition of security wall and work department buildings and the erection of a new prison houseblock for 216 cells, multi storey car park, industries buildings, garage buildings, water plant room, security fence and wall, basketball court, landscaping and surface car park subject to:

 

(i)           Referral of the application to the Mayor of London as required under the terms of The Town and Country Planning (Mayor of London) Order 2008;

(ii)          Conditions and Informatives set out in sections 3.2 and 3.3 of the main report, as revised in the addendum report that was tabled at the meeting;

(iii)        Additional conditions and informatives contained in the addendum report that was tabled at the meeting; and

(iv)        The satisfactory completion of a legal agreement to secure the planning obligations set out in section 20 of the main report, as revised in the addendum report that was tabled at the meeting;

 

 

Minutes:

The Assistant Area Planning Manager gave an illustrative presentation to the report, recommending to the Board to grant planning permission for part demolition of a security wall and work department buildings, and the erection of a new prison houseblock and facilities at the south-west of Her Majesty Prison (HMP) Thameside, off Haddon Road and opposite a large neighbouring industrial area.

 

The Board noted the report, and that an addendum to it was tabled at the meeting.  It was recognised that the proposed development would also include a multi-storey car park, an industries building, three garage buildings, a water plant room, security wall and fence, a basketball court, hard and soft landscaping, and a surfaced car park.

 

In response to questions raised, the Officer clarified to the Board that the proposed extension would contain the new prison buildings, the houseblock and industries buildings.  The co-location of the existing facilities would allow flexibility and efficiencies of custodial services between the prison service and the courts’ building.

 

Members noted submissions made at the meeting and commented that the application was within planning rules.  It was

 

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

That planning permission be granted for the part demolition of the security wall and work department buildings and the erection of a new prison houseblock for 216 cells, multi storey car park, industries buildings, garage buildings, water plant room, security fence and wall, basketball court, landscaping and surface car park subject to:

 

(i)           Referral of the application to the Mayor of London as required under the terms of The Town and Country Planning (Mayor of London) Order 2008;

(ii)          Conditions and Informatives set out in sections 3.2 and 3.3 of the main report, as revised in the addendum report that was tabled at the meeting;

(iii)        Additional conditions and informatives contained in the addendum report that was tabled at the meeting; and

(iv)        The satisfactory completion of a legal agreement to secure the planning obligations set out in section 20 of the main report, as revised in the addendum report that was tabled at the meeting;

 

 

11.

Proposal to modify the Deed of Planning Obligation dated 23 February 2004 by agreement under Section 106A (1)(a) of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 and other powers in respect of Development at Greenwich Peninsula, SE10 pdf icon PDF 115 KB

To resolve to enter into the modification of the Section 106 deed in respect of Development at Greenwich Peninsula dated 23rd February 2004 (planning ref: 02/2903/O) by agreement, as set out in Section 6 of this report, under Section 106A (1)(a) of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 and other powers.

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Decision:

Resolved –

 

Unanimously

 

To enter into the modification of the Section 106 deed in respect of Development at Greenwich Peninsula dated 23rd February 2004 (planning ref: 02/2903/O) by agreement, as set out in Section 6 of the report, under Section 106A (1)(a) of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 and other powers

 

And additional requirements:

 

·                    That the Local Authority hold regular reviews with the Developer as the development progresses, in order to establish whether additional affordable housing can be provided

·                    That the modification of the Section 106 deed does not set a precedent elsewhere on the Greenwich Peninsula site in terms of development plots with no affordable housing.

Minutes:

Councillor Roberts declared a personal interest, advising that he periodically receives briefings on progress in relation to this Item.  Councillor Roberts left the room and did not take part in the discussions or vote on the proposal.

 

The Planning Manager (Major Development) gave an illustrative presentation to the report, recommending to the Board to resolve to enter into the modification of the Section 106 deed in respect of development at Greenwich Peninsula site.

 

The Board noted the report, and that the proposed modification related to development proposed on plots MO101, MO103, MO104, MO114, MO115, MO116, MO117, NO601, NO602, NO607 and NO608 of the approved masterplan (planning ref: 02/2903/O).

 

The meeting was addressed by a representative of the City Peninsula Residents’ Association.  It was stated that residents were opposed to proposal because it would result in a lower allocation of affordable housing and a polarised community across the peninsula area.  The representative stated that residents knew that the Council’s leverage to control the development progress was supported by a condition under the approved scheme.  However, the proposal would remove that leverage and provide scope for the applicants to renegotiate a lower allocation of affordable in future planning applications, and that would lead to a loss of control by the Council of the development process.  Thus, the applicants would have an opportunity to delay delivery, thereby acquiring time to improve their viability.

 

The Board was further advised by the representative of the City Peninsula Residents’ Association that residents were aware that in addition to a £50m affordable housing grant from the government, the applicants would benefit from the sale price they would receive from the registered provider, and a discount on the cost of the land.  Given the high levels of subsidy involved, residents were suggesting to the Board to ensure publicity of the developers’ report on viability for further scrutiny of the application.

 

A representative from the Greenwich Conservation Group (GCG) also addressed the meeting.  It was stated that the Group was opposed to the proposal, and had questioned whether the Mayor of London was consulted on it.  The representative informed that the Group believed that the proposal would remove the safeguards that the Council had in controlling the development process, thereby presenting uncertainty in the rate of affordable housing to be delivered, and timescale of delivery of the scheme. Thus, the Group was suggesting to the Board to request confirmation from the developers in respect of delivery dates and construction periods for the modifications to take place.  The Group was seeking confirmation from the Board not to use the proposal as a precedent for future developments within the Peninsula Masterplan area.  The representative added that the Group was also recommending to the Board to request regular reviews between the Council and the applicants on progress of the development, with reappraisals as appropriate, in order to ensure adherence with the arrangements.

 

The Board sought clarification and was advised by the Officer that the £50 million of affordable housing grant remained allocated  ...  view the full minutes text for item 11.

12.

Plots N0601, N0602, N0607, N0608, N0504 and N0506, Greenwich Peninsula, Greenwich, SE10 pdf icon PDF 725 KB

To grant outline planning permission for a mixed use development consisting of Class A1-A5 (Retail) and D1/D2 (Leisure, Creche, Community use) up to 8,256m², Class C1 (Hotel) up to 38,517m² or B1 (Business) up to 33,943m², Class C3 (Dwellings) up to 1,683 dwellings (155,228m²), up to 982 residential car parking spaces (33,471m²) , up to 129 non-residential car parking spaces (5,066m²), public realm and open space, hard and soft landscaping, associated highways and transport works, associated plant and ancillary works and with full details of access to the TFL North Vent Shaft no. 4 of the Blackwall Tunnel and access off Millennium Way roundabout.

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Decision:

Resolved –

 

That outline planning permission for a mixed use development consisting of Class A1-A5 (Retail) and D1/D2 (Leisure, Creche, Community use) up to 8,256m², Class C1 (Hotel) up to 38,517m² or B1 (Business) up to 33,943m², Class C3 (Dwellings) up to 1,683 dwellings (155,228m²), up to 982 residential car parking spaces (33,471m²) , up to 129 non-residential car parking spaces (5,066m²), public realm and open space, hard and soft landscaping, associated highways and transport works, associated plant and ancillary works and with full details of access to the TFL North Vent Shaft no. 4 of the Blackwall Tunnel and access off Millennium Way roundabout, be deferred, in order to enable Members of the Board to gain better understanding of the context within which the outline application sits.

Minutes:

Councillor Roberts declared a personal interest, advising that he periodically receives briefings on progress in relation to this Item.  Councillor Roberts left the room and did not take part in the discussions or vote on the proposal.

 

The Planning Manager (Major Developments) gave an illustrative presentation to the report, recommending to the Board to grant outline planning permission for a mixed use development at Greenwich Peninsula.

 

The Board noted the report, and that an addendum to it was circulated at the meeting.  It was recognised that the proposal related to an approved scheme dated 23 February 2004.

 

A representative from the Greenwich Conservation Group addressed the meeting.  He advised the Board that the Group was opposed to the application because the proposal was a departure from the approved Masterplan.  Specifically, the development lacked provision for a mixed and balanced community due to the lack of affordable housing.  The heights of the buildings were in excess of the parameters set out in the approved scheme.  The form of the tower blocks and their disposition were contrary to the original intent.  Given the deviations, the Group was suggesting to the Board to recommend a review the original Masterplan, supported by adequate consultation with the community.  In particular, consideration of family units to be provided on the site should be brought forward in future phases as stipulated in the approved Masterplan. 

 

The Board also noted an objection by a representative who addressed the meeting on behalf of AEG Europe, the owners of The O2, and the site immediate north of the Greenwich Peninsula.  It was stated that the company welcomed development for growth on the Greenwich Peninsula but that the proposal was detrimental in terms of viability and deliverability.  In particular, the criteria set out in the National Planning Policy Framework had not been considered when assessing the impact of the modifications on existing businesses in the surrounding area.  The introduction of two new hotels would undermine the delivery and short to medium term viability of The O2 Hotel.  The Board was asked to note that the company believed that proposed arrangements should instigate a review of the uses initially approved in the Masterplan. 

 

The meeting was also addressed by representatives from the Aluna Foundation.  It was stated by the Foundation the application was linked to an opportunity to help secure funding from the developer towards the further development and realisation of Aluna in providing innovative public arts and cultural landmark of local, national and international importance, as well a new river transport landing pier and waterfront open space in an area of open space deficiency.  The representatives urged the Board to approve the proposal in view of the Borough’s Cultural Plan, and for onsite public art.

 

In response to questions raised, the Officer clarified to the Board that the proposal, if approved, would create 8 buildings.  Since the arrangements would provide 100% private market housing, it was a departure from the approved scheme which envisaged a minimum of  ...  view the full minutes text for item 12.