Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes

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Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Committee.

Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received for Councillors Mehboob Kahn and Cherry Parker.

 

Apologies for leaving the meeting early were received from Councillor Chris Lloyd, who was in attendance for Item 1 to 4 and 6 to 7.

2.

Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.

Minutes:

There were no items of urgent business submitted for consideration.

 

However, the Chair drew Members attention to a number of tabled documents which had been submitted by the public & applicant in relation to Items no 5 and 6.

3.

Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 34 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

Minutes:

The Chair, Councillor Mark James, declared a personal interest as an employee of Transport for London (TfL) in relation to the items on the agenda. 

 

Resolved –

 

That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.

4.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 102 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 14 March 2017.

 

No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.

Minutes:

Before seeking agreement on the Minutes of the 14 March 2017 the chair draw the Committee Members attention to the comments submitted by the Westcombe Society questioning the accuracy of the minute relating to the comments of the Assistant Director, Planning & Building Control on Item 4 – 14 Shooters Hill.  These comments had been emailed to Members and laid around the table. 

 

He continued that the Assistant Director, Planning & Building Control, had considered the comments submitted by the Westcombe Society and had propose amended wording, which was tabled for Members Consideration and agreement. 

 

Members accept the amendments proposed by the Assistant Director, Planning & Building Control

 

Resolved -

 

That the amended minutes of the meeting of the Greenwich Area Planning Committee held on 14 March 2017 be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record.

5.

1 Hyde Vale, Greenwich, London, SE10 8QG (15/1233/F) pdf icon PDF 75 KB

The Committee is requested to grant planning permission and Listed Building consent for demolition of existing building and construction of a 3-storey building plus basement providing 7 x residential units and 4 x single storey outbuildings with associated refuse/recycling, bike stores, and landscaping.

Additional documents:

Decision:

Refused planning permission and Listed Building consent for demolition of existing building and construction of a 3-storey building plus basement providing 7 x residential units and 4 x single storey outbuildings with associated refuse/recycling, bike stores, and landscaping.

Minutes:

The Chair, Councillor Mark James, declared a personal interest as an employee of Transport for London (TfL) in relation to the item.

 

Members noted that a supplementary agenda with a further Officer Addendum report had been published in relation to this item and noted the additional submission received from the applicant which had been submitted to them by email.

 

The Chair advised the Committee that he had received requests from a number of the public speakers and Councillor Khan to consider this application as the last item of business.  The Committee indicated that it agreed to this request and the matter was considered as the last item of business.

 

The Area Planning Manager (West) gave a detailed presentation on the application which included visual representations of the proposed building and layout, noting that Members had visited the site. He advised that the Secretary of State and rescinded the Grade 2 Listing on 1 Hyde Vale but the proposal would be abutted to a Grade 2 Listed building and within the buffer zone of the Greenwich World Heritage.  That the boundary line with 31-33 King George Street had been incorrectly aligned and the re-configured proposal, with reduced basement size, presented was correct. 

 

The Area Planning Committee accepted an address from the representative of the Greenwich Conservation Group speaking in objection of the application.  He advised that the Conservation Group was in agreement with the Georgian Group and local residents that insufficient thought had been given to adapting the existing building for residential use.  That the revised proposal was still considered unacceptable as the positioning of the building would result in a poor quality of natural light to the basement, sitting space and kitchen dinner area of units 1 to 4.  That units 6 and 7 only had roof lights for ventilation and natural light which, it was felt, was substandard and unacceptable in a new build development.  Further, neither of these unit had access to private outdoor space. That the footprint of the lower floor unit 5 had been reduced and at basement level would be overshadowed by the boundary wall with King George Street.

 

That Greenwich Conservation Group and local residents had expressed concern that the footprint of the proposed building had a greater front and back depth than the current building on site which had been clarified by additional material presented at this meeting but it was unacceptable that this information had not been made publicly available in advance of the meeting.  The Greenwich Conservation Group welcome the proposed Conditions to safeguard the adjoining Listed Building and protect the amenities of the residents of that property.   It was felt that adjustments were still required to the elevation drawings relating to Unit 7 which showed two floor to ceiling door windows with a Juliet balcony arrangement, but the plan showed a recessed balcony in this location and that it was unacceptable that Members had to consider an application which had undergone several changes, since its original appearance, yet there are  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

6.

17 Shooters Hill Road, Blackheath, London SE3 7AS (16/1618/F & 16/1619/L) pdf icon PDF 56 KB

The Committee is requested to grant Planning Permission and Listed Building Consent for the demolition of existing 3-storey side extension and construction of a new 3-storey side extension, re-organisation of basement level and installation of roof-light at second floor level.

Additional documents:

Decision:

Granted Full Planning Permission and Listed Building Consent for the demolition of existing 3-storey side extension and construction of a new 3-storey side extension, re-organisation of basement level and installation of roof-light at second floor level

 

Subject to:

a)    The Conditions and reasons as set out in Appendix 2 of the main report for application reference 16/1618/F and the 2nd Addendum.

b)    The Conditions and reasons set out in Appendix 3 of the main report for application reference 16/1619/L and the 2nd Addendum.

Minutes:

The Chair, Councillor Mark James, declared a personal interest as an employee of Transport for London (TfL) in relation to this item.

 

Members noted that a supplementary agenda, with a further Officer Addendum report, had been published and noted the additional submission received from the applicant, which had been submitted to them by email.

 

The Area Planning Manager (East) gave a detailed PowerPoint assisted presentation of the application which included elevation comparison illustrations and proposed layout. He noted that Members had visited the site.

 

The Area Planning Manager (East) confirmed to Members that the windows in the proposed development would be of the same size as those in the current building on site. 

 

The Area Planning Committee accepted an address from the representative for the Greenwich Conservation Group speaking in objection to the application as it was felt that the proposed development would be an unacceptable addition to a Grade 2 Listed Building within the conservation area.  That this was a terrace with two story over basement extensions, set back with subservient parapet lines, whereas the proposal was for a single story over basement extension which would be out of keeping with the distinct look of the terrace.  That whilst the scale and massing of the proposal was respectful to the adjoining property at No.19 it did not respect the president and established pattern of extensions as No’s 11, 13, 15 and 21 and would create an unbalanced appearance. The Society did not agree that it would be subservient or respect the scale of the host property or what had been established at No.15, which should be repeated at No.17.

 

The Area Planning Committee accepted an address from the representative for the Blackheath Society speaking in objection to the application who felt that the officers’ assessment that the rear extension would cause no harm or have an adverse impact on the character to the host Grade 2 Listed Building was incorrect.   The Society felt that the scale, height, massing and martials, to be used as well as the larger rear extension would be harmful to the host building which the Listed Building entry describes as an outstanding group (No’s 7 to 33) in terms of the entirety of the buildings.   That the large area of glazing to the kitchen dinner would be out of keeping with the buildings stock brickwork.  The Society felt the alterations were not in line with the National Planning Framework as there was no public value to the proposal and that the application should be rejected as it was unsympathetic and damaging to the host building and not in line with Core Strategy Policies.

 

The Area Planning Committee accepted an address from the resident of the adjoining paired property speaking in support of the application.  He felt that the objections were disproportionate to the work proposed and there was an element of NIMBY from objectors who lived in modern developments as the end of the garden area, to the rear aspect of the proposals.  He advised  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

7.

Zeytin Restaurant, 63 Greenwich High Road, Greenwich, SE10 pdf icon PDF 227 KB

The Committee is requested to grant consent for the formation of outside seating area within the public footway consisting of 7 tables and 14 chairs subject to the Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the report.

Additional documents:

Decision:

Deferred for a site visit.

Minutes:

The Chair, Councillor Mark James, declared a personal interest as an employee of Transport for London (TfL) in relation to this item.  

 

The Chair advised the he had received a request from a residents of the block advising that the majority of the residents / objectors were unable to attend the meeting and requesting that the matter be differed to the next meeting.

He advised that he was informed that the resident’s objections had been submitted to Planning Officers and were reflected in the report and it was at the discretion of this committee to agree to this request.

 

Members noted that there were no public speakers in attendance, in relation to this item and moved direct to a decision on the request.

 

Resolved –

 

That the matter be deferred for a site visit.

8.

Unit B, Wood Wharf, Horseferry Place, Greenwich, London, SE10 pdf icon PDF 233 KB

The Committee is requested to grant planning consent for the change of use of Unit B of Wood Wharf from A3 and D2 use to uses including A1 (Retail) /A2 (Financial and Professional Services) /A3 (Restaurant and Cafe) /B1 (Business) /D1 (Non-Residential Institutions) and D2 (Assembly and Leisure) use, subject to the Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the report.

Additional documents:

Decision:

Granted planning consentfor the change of use of Unit B of Wood Wharf from A3 and D2 use to uses including A1 (Retail) /A2 (Financial and Professional Services) /A3 (Restaurant and Cafe) /B1 (Business) /D1 (Non-Residential Institutions) and D2 (Assembly and Leisure) use.

 

Subject to:

(i)         The satisfactory completion of a Section 106 Legal Agreement (obligations set out in Section 19); and

(ii)        Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the main report; and

(iii)      Inclusion of an amendment to Condition 1 to allow for the additional uses of ‘Day Centre, Museum, Public Hall, Exhibition Hall, Law Court’ within the D1 use class.

Minutes:

The Chair, Councillor Mark James, declared a personal interest as an employee of Transport for London (TfL) in relation to this item.

 

Before moving to the presentation the Planning Case Officer advised the Committee that Condition 1, Commercial Use Restrictions, at Appendix 2 of the report, required amendment in that it should read;

The use of the D1 commercial floor space shall only be used as a clinic, health centre, crèche, day nursery, Day Centre, Museum, Public Hall, Exhibition Hall, Law Court, art galleries (other than for sale or hire), libraries, non-residential education and training centre and for no other purposes identified within Class D1 of the Used Classes Order.

 

The Planning Case Officer gave a detailed PowerPoint assisted presentation on the application which included elevation comparison illustrations and the proposed layout, recommending the proposal to Members.

 

In response to questions the Members the Planning Case Officer advised that it was the understanding of planning officers that the gym would remain as part of the development for future sale and that sound insulation was covered under the Conditions. 

 

The Planning Committee accepted an address from the Agent for the applicant who clarified that it was the applicants’ intention to sale or re-let the Unit, possibly as a gym and any noise mitigating works would be carried out in advance.

 

In determining the matter before them a Member noted that there did not appear to be a reason to refuse the application and the improvements would be of benefit to existing and future building occupants.

 

The matter was put to the vote with 6 Members voting in favour of granting the application; there were no votes against or abstentions.

 

Resolved -

 

That planning consent be granted for the change of use of Unit B of Wood Wharf from A3 and D2 use to uses including A1 (Retail) /A2 (Financial and Professional Services) /A3 (Restaurant and Cafe) /B1 (Business) /D1 (Non-Residential Institutions) and D2 (Assembly and Leisure) use.

 

Subject to:

(i)         The satisfactory completion of a Section 106 Legal Agreement (obligations set out in Section 19); and

(ii)        Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the main report; and

(iii)      Inclusion of an amendment to Condition 1 to allow for the additional uses of ‘Day Centre, Museum, Public Hall, Exhibition Hall, Law Court’ within the D1 use class.