Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes

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Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Committee.

Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received for Councillor Denise Scott-McDonald.

 

Apologies for lateness were received for Councillor Cherry Parker.

2.

Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.

Minutes:

The Chair informed the Planning Committee that, in respect of Item 6 - 36 Kidbrooke Grove, the last consultation for this application relating to additional information on how the basement was to be constructed, was not correctly conducted.  In light of the high level of public interest that had been shown in this item the Area Planning Committee, upon guidance of Planning Officers, the Chair felt that it would be inappropriate to determine the application without having followed due process in terms of public consultation.  Further, to determine the matter before them would leave the application and the Council open to a judicial review if the application were approved.  The Committee agreed to defer the item to the next possible meeting.

 

The Chair drew attention to documents submitted by residents and an applicant which were emailed to the Members and were available for view at the meeting.

3.

Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 33 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

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Minutes:

Resolved –

 

That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.

4.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 75 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 12 September 2017 and 10 October 2017.

 

No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.

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Minutes:

Resolved -

 

That the minutes of the meetings of the Greenwich Area Planning Committee held on 12 September 2017 and 10 October 2017, be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record’s.

5.

Guildford Arms, 55 Guildford Grove, Greenwich, London, SE10 8JY - 17/2340/F pdf icon PDF 481 KB

The Committee is requested to grant planning permission for the construction of a 3-storey, over lower ground floor, residential dwelling fronting Devonshire Drive (Formerly 61 Devonshire Drive) and the conversion of the first and second floors of the existing public house to a single 3-bed residential unit with independent access and a screened rear roof terrace; Demolition of the existing rear extension and the construction of a lower ground and ground floor rear extension to the Public House to facilitate kitchen, lift access to the garden and a fully accessible WC.

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Decision:

Granted planning permission for the demolition of existing outbuilding to the front and minor modification of the external elevation, excavation of basement including the formation of a light well, sunken courtyard, boundary treatments and installation of new wrought iron gate.

 

Subject to the Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the report; Condition 11 being amended to include 53 Guildford Grove and the following additional condition regarding screening:

 

“Prior to the implementation of the development full details of additional screening along with the boundary with 53 Guildford Grove shall be submitted to and approved by the Local Planning Authority.  The approved screening shall be implemented within 6 months of the completion of the development or within the first planting season whichever is the earliest.”

Minutes:

The Chair drew attention to a document submitted by a resident which was emailed to the Members and was available for view at the meeting.

 

The Planning Committee received an illustrated presentation on the application from the Area Planning Manager (West) who noted that the Committee had undertaken a site visit and that Officers recommended agreement of the application.

 

In response to questions from the Members, the Area Planning Manager (West) advised that the glazed terrace to the rear of the Public House would provide space for tables and chairs, with the lower ground level allowing access to the beer garden. 

 

The Area Planning Manager (West) responded to Members that soundproofing was to be installed as this was a business rather than residential property; this was covered under Condition 11.  Further, whilst Condition 11 related, primarily, to the soundproofing between the Public House and the new residential properties if Members were minded to agree the application they could amend the condition to make specific reference to soundproofing between the Guildford Arms and all adjoining residential property at 53 Guildford Grove.

 

A Member raised concern that it was not clear how the glazed terrace would be joined to the gable wall of 53 Guildford Grove. The Member was concerned that the Area Planning Committee were being asked to approve an application without knowing, accurately, what they were being asked to agree. 

 

The Area Planning Manager (West) clarified that this was a building control issue.

 

The Planning Committee accepted an address from the resident of the adjoining property who advised that she had a good relationship with the landlord and staff and accepted that this was an ambitious project.

However, she was concerned as to where the glazed terracing area would end and how it would be supported, as it abutted her gable wall beside her bedrooms.   She advised that she had had previous issues with noise transmission and pollution from air conditioning units, which were fitted and vibrated through her wall.  She noted that the terracing would be half obscured glazing, to the side adjacent to her property to help protect her privacy, but the glazing would not stop noise escaping.

 

She continued that smokers would be moved further down the beer garden and the smoke would come over into her property and as she had already had to raise an issue of staff smoking in this area, she was aware of the negative effect this would have upon her health and habitation of her home.  She felt that she would be surrounded by noise from the terrace and the garden area, where the pub bins were currently located but being moved from.  That there would be no buffer zone between her property and the beer garden to protect her privacy, to deter noise disturbance or smoke pollution.

 

The Planning Committee accepted an address from the applicant who advised that the application was based on architectural and viability issues.  He stated that he had a responsibility to the host building, the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

6.

36 Kidbrooke Grove, Kidbrooke, London, SE3 0LG - 17/0285/F pdf icon PDF 327 KB

The Committee is requested to grant planning permission for the demolition of existing outbuilding to the front and minor modification of the external elevation, excavation of basement including the formation of a light well, sunken courtyard, boundary treatments and installation of new wrought iron gate.

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Decision:

That a decision on this application be deferred.

Minutes:

The Chair informed the Planning Committee that, in respect of Item 6 - 36 Kidbrooke Grove, the last consultation for this application relating to additional information on how the basement was to be constructed, was not correctly conducted.  In light of the high level of public interest that had been shown in this item the Area Planning Committee, upon guidance of Planning Officers, the Chair felt that it would be inappropriate to determine the application without having followed due process in terms of public consultation.  Further, to determine the application would leave the application and the Council open to a judicial review if the application were approved. 

 

Resolved -

 

That it be agreed to deferred this item to a future meeting of the Committee.