Greenwich Council

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Note: Item 6 will not be heard as the application has been deemed invalid 

No. Item


Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Sub-Committee.


There were no apologies for absence.


Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.


There was no urgent business.


Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 35 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

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Resolved –


That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.


Minutes pdf icon PDF 75 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 1 June 2017.


No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.


Resolved -


That the minutes of the meeting of Licensing Sub-Committee ‘B’ held on 01 June 2017 be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record.


Taksim Bistro, 7 Blackheath Hill, London, SE10 8PB pdf icon PDF 103 KB

Application to vary the premises licence

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In reaching its decision the Sub Committee considered the Council’s statement of Licensing Policy, the Licensing Act 2003, the Regulations made there under and the Guidance issued by the Secretary of State under S.182 of that Act. In discharging its functions the Sub Committee did so with a view to promoting the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder, public safety, the prevention of public nuisance and the protection of children from harm.


Having considered all the evidence put before it the Sub-Committee decided to reject the whole of the application  to vary the Premises Licence (including the variation of the plans showing a proposed new layout of the premises) under the Licensing Act 2003 in respect of the


Taksim Bistro, 7 Blackheath Hill, London, SE10 8PB


The Sub Committee’s decision was based on issues raised concerning the prevention of crime and disorder, the prevention of public nuisance and the protection of children from harm.


In reaching their decision the Sub-Committee heard from the Applicant’s representative who offered an apology for the nuisance caused by the applicant’s use of the rear of the licensed premises. She confirmed that a notice would be placed outside the rear of the premises which would prohibit its use for a takeaway service and commercial use and that noise was to be kept to a minimum. She said that the Applicant had complied with the licensing conditions particularly those relating to sound proofing, deliveries and rubbish collection. The Applicant’s representative informed the Sub-Committee that there had been no incidents since the grant of the licence and that the applicant was prepared to comply with any conditions that were imposed if the increased hours were granted. The Sub-Committee was told that a Door Supervisor would be appointed to ensure that no nuisance was caused and a member of staff would clear any rubbish within 50 metres of the premises every 2 hours. Additionally, the variation in hours at the licensed premises would improve employment opportunities and enable the applicant afford increased business rates.


The Sub-Committee was told by the applicant’s representative that the licensed premises had a new layout which separated the takeaway section from the restaurant and moved the kitchen to the front of the licensed premises. She stated that there would be mopeds parked in front of the licensed premises to make deliveries.


The Sub-Committee heard oral representations from one of the local residents who lived above the restaurant and was objecting to the application. She stated that when she purchased her flat, it was a news agent and now it was a restaurant. She said that she had had a constructive relationship with the applicant but had been disappointed that she had not been told of the proposed changes to the licensed premises which now felt like a takeaway establishment. She agreed that there was no issue of noise emanating from the roof of the licensed premises, however, since the licensed premises had been operating the takeaway service the windows to  ...  view the full decision text for item 5.


Applicant                                 Ali Riza Dogan

                                              Beuket Erdogan (Representative)


Making Representation             Vicky Hamblin


The Chair welcomed all parties and ensured that introductions were made, all papers had been received and that all parties were aware of their right to be represented.


The Sub-Committee considered an application made by Ali Riza Dogan


The Licensing Lead Officer gave an illustrated introduction to the report and informed the committee of some errors in the plan to the premises:

·        No relocation of the toilets

·        New additional bar in the middle

·        Grill moved from rear to the front of the premises


In response to questions from the Sub-Committee the Licensing Team Lead Officer replied that a licence can be reviewed if conditions are breached.


The Sub-Committee was addressed by Beuket Erdogan (the applicants representative). She apologised for any nuisance caused by the delivery and takeaway service.  She confirmed the rear area of the premises would no longer be used for commercial purposes and clear signage would be placed on the doors prohibiting noise after 11pm and for maximum care to be taken. She stated the mopeds used for delivery were to be moved to the front of the licensed premises.

She made reference to the Licence Sub-Committee Decision Notice – 17 November 2015(appendix F) and stated that her client had complied with the conditions agreed with The Environmental Health Team in relation to insulation and limiting the noise to the properties above the premises.


She noted that there had been a misunderstanding with planning permission as only minor changes were made to the restaurant and seating had only been increased from 56 to 60. The kitchen had been moved to the front of the premises to separate the restaurant from the takeaway.


She also stated that her client would employ a door supervisor and ensure that the 50 metres surrounding area would be cleared every 2 hours.


In response to questions from the Sub-Committee the applicant’s legal representative explained that there were 5 other local premises with similar hours to those being requested on the application and that her client was willing to work with them to clear the area. She mentioned that the interest in the takeaway trade was to increase revenue and stated that the door supervisor would work from 10pm until closing and would manage nuisance for example asking people to smoke 5 metres away from the premises.


The Sub-Committee was addressed by Vicky Hamlin. She stated she lived in the flat above the premises and raised concerns that what was once an off license is now evolving into a takeaway. She was also not informed of the dramatic changes to the interior and exterior of the premises.


She stated that her representation was not linked to the noise that was initially coming through the roof of the premises as that had been rectified and was no longer a concern. But the new changes to the premises had led to noise and smell out the front window which could be heard/smelt from her bedroom.  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.


Foodies Festival, Circus Field, Blackheath, London SE3 7AS pdf icon PDF 105 KB

Application for a premises licence

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The item was not heard as the application had been deemed invalid