Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes

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No. Item


Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Sub-Committee.


There were no apologies for absence.


Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.


There was no urgent business.


Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 35 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

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Resolved –


That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.


Minutes pdf icon PDF 81 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 09 October 2017.


No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.


Resolved -


That the minutes of the meeting of Licensing Sub-Committee ‘C’ held on 09 October 2017 be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record.


The Guardhouse - No 1 Street, Woolwich Royal Arsenal, SE18 6GH pdf icon PDF 365 KB

Variation of a premesis license

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Agreement was reached between the applicant and the local resident, making representation, prior to the Sub-Committee Hearing.


Teviot Rangers Junior Football Club - Swingate Lane SE18 2JB pdf icon PDF 385 KB

To grant a premesis License

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In reaching its decision the Sub Committee considered the Council’s statement of Licensing Policy, the Licensing Act 2003, the Regulations made there under and the Guidance issued by the Secretary of State under S.182 of that Act. In discharging its functions the Sub Committee did so with a view to promoting the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder, public safety, the prevention of public nuisance and the protection of children from harm.


Having considered all the evidence put before it the Sub-Committee decided to grant the Premises Licence under the Licensing Act 2003 in respect of the


Teviot Rangers Junior Football Club, Rose Cottage Playing Fields, Swingate Lane, Plumstead, London SE18 2JD.


as follows:


That the hours for licensable activities



The Sale & supply of alcohol (On-Sales only) 



11:00 – 22:00


11:00 – 20:00

Non-standard timings:

Maximum two days per week between Monday-Friday



The hours that the premises shall be open:


Monday - Sunday

11:00 – 23:00



The licence is granted subject to the conditions as are consistent with the Operating Schedule and the conditions agreed by the applicant and Responsible Authorities as set out below:


1             The “Challenge 25”/ “Think 25” proof of age scheme shall be operated at the premises. All customers who appear under the age of 25 shall be challenged to prove that they are over 18 when attempting to purchase alcohol. Acceptable forms of ID include a photo driving licence, passport, or home office approved identity card bearing the holographic ‘PASS’ mark. If the person seeking alcohol is unable to produce an acceptable form of identification, no sale or supply of alcohol shall be made to or for that person.


2             All staff shall be trained in the law about the sale of alcohol. Such training shall include challenging every individual who appears to be under 25 years of age and to refuse service where individuals cannot produce acceptable means of identification; understanding acceptable forms of ID; and using the refusals register. Such training (including any refresher training) shall be logged and provided not less than every six (6) months. The training log shall be made available for inspection by Police and authorised persons (as defined by Section 13 of the Licensing Act 2003).


3             A refusals log must be kept at the premises, and made immediately available on request to the police or an authorised person (as defined by Section 13, Licensing Act 2003). The refusals log is to be inspected on a monthly basis by the DPS and noted in the log and a record made in the log of any actions that appear to be needed to protect young people from harm. The log must record all refused sales of alcohol and must include the following:


          a) the identity of the member of staff who refused the sale;

          b) the date and time of the refusal;

          c) the alcohol requested and reason for refusal;

          d) description of the person refused alcohol.


4             The following posters  ...  view the full decision text for item 6.


In attendance:



Mr David Potter (Applicant)

Ms Tracy Maddocks (Representative)


Making Representation

Councillor Danny Thorpe, Mr Eddie Greenhead, Mr Fransz, Mr Gytis Zaliaduonis, Ms Jennifer Lester & Mr Frances Washington


The Chair welcomed all parties and ensured that introductions were made, all papers had been received and that all parties were aware of their right to be represented. She further advised those making representation that if their points had been raised by a previous speaker to confirm and only raise new points.


The Licensing Officer gave an illustrated introduction into the report.


The Sub-Committee was addressed by the applicant who advised of his and the Secretary’s long association with the club whilst highlighting a number of improvements that had been made to the facilities. He confirmed that the club was self-funded, making its income wholly from the levy put on its members, and was seeking to begin using the clubroom as a bar to create another revenue stream.


With regards to crime and disorder, the applicant confirmed that people would not be able to walk in off the street to buy alcohol as the club room would operate as a member’s bar where each player would have 2 associated members i.e mum and dad. He added that members would be responsible in controlling their guests who would need to sign a guestbook.


He advised the Committee that in the past 18 months there had been 3 incidents at the club with 1 requiring police intervention that was defused within the club boundaries. He added the 2 individuals involved had been rejected from the club. The applicant confirmed that CCTV would be installed as a result of the conditions agreed with the police and felt that such conditions were above what was normally required.


In relation to public nuisance, the applicant stated that the bar was to open around playing times which would limit the number of openings in the week especially during school times. He advised that although parking within the club grounds was not available there shouldn’t be an increase of cars in the area and Members are advised to respect the local residents. He added there are anti drink/drug drive campaign posters on site and the club fully supports and promotes police on such campaigns.


The applicant confirmed that all staff, including volunteers, were required to have DBS clearance and would be trained to identify possible drink drivers and call the police where necessary. He added that the club had partnerships with local cab companies and stated that the local bus service was only 150 metres distance from the club.


The applicant identified 6 other local football clubs that had licensed bars and stated that 100 invitation letters had been posted to local residents to discuss their concerns however no one attended. He mentioned that members of the club were not invited to the residents meeting with the local ward councillors where they discussed concerns about the application.


In response to questions, the applicant confirmed that  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.