Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes

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No. Item


Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Sub-Committee.


There were no apologies for absence.


Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.


There was no urgent business.


Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 35 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.


Resolved –


That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.


Minutes pdf icon PDF 32 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 9 March 2017.


No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.


Resolved -


That the minutes of the meeting of the Overview and Scrutiny Call-in Sub-Committee held on 9 March 2017 be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record.


Revised Scheme and Estimate report for Hervey Road Playing Fields pdf icon PDF 117 KB

Members to note the decision of the Deputy Leader of the Council, and agree to take no further action, in which case the decision will have immediate effect and be implemented; or review the decision in public with a view to considering the potential of the other options outlined in the report; and/or add an additional decision aimed at reviewing the costs at regular (at least six monthly) intervals by a relevant scrutiny panel to ensure that the scheme does not cost Council taxpayers further, unbudgeted money.

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Noted the decision of the Deputy Leader of the Council, and requested further reports back to Scrutiny at 6 monthly intervals on scheme progress, expenditure against budget and forecast final account.


The Chair outlined the procedure to be followed for the meeting. He stated that he had agreed that a member of the public could address the Sub-Committee.


Councillor Spencer Drury addressed the Sub-Committee as a signatory to the call-in. Councillor Spencer Drury clarified that his concern was with the funding of the project. He thought the intention was for the project to be self-funding. He queried whether the project was viable. He drew the Sub-Committee’s attention to the various sums of money that had been proposed in reports over the last few years and he expressed his concern that costs were spiralling out of control. Councillor Drury requested that the Sub-Committee agree Option 2 at paragraph 5.2 of the report, and have the matter go to Scrutiny on a regular basis.


In response to questions from the Sub-Committee, Councillor Drury replied that he would prefer the matter to go to Scrutiny rather than for the decision to be reconsidered. He noted the tendency had been for matters to be monitored after the event, for example as with the Foot Tunnels, but he said that in this case there was evidence from 2014 onwards of costs going upwards so that was a reason for it to be monitored now. He said they needed to look specifically at whether they were subsidising a private provider with Council taxpayers’ money.


Councillor Danny Thorpe, Deputy Leader of the Council, responded to the call-in. He stated that the it was not the intention to subsidise a private provider. He noted that project costs could change. He clarified the issue with the cricket square was because Sport England specifically required a specialist contractor. He commented on the residents’ concerns. He noted the incursion by travellers and its affect. He said the real increase in costs was in inflation, materials and labour. In terms of managing the costs he explained that he had one to one meetings with the Director of Regeneration, Skills and Enterprise, and the programme board monitored to see there was value for money. The Deputy Leader acknowledged there was an increase in costs but that it was justified.


In response to questions from the Sub-Committee the Deputy Leader of the Council and the Director of Communities and Environment replied that it had not been known at the beginning that a specialist contractor was required. It was confirmed that bids had been made for additional funding. It was stated that residents’ concerns about fencing was addressed by the decision.


The Chair agreed to a member of the public addressing the Sub-Committee.


The Sub-Committee was addressed by a resident of Wricklemarsh Road.

He commented that residents had been previously told there was no money to run the site as a park, now there was money. He questioned the limited choices considered, and why there had not be a broader dialogue about the use of the site. He commented on the proposed use; it was felt that the proposed use could lead to arguments about noise  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.