Greenwich Council

Agenda and minutes

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Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Panel.


There were no apologies for absence.


Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.


There was no urgent business.


Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 47 KB

Members to declare any personal and prejudicial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.


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Councillor Dick Quibell stated that with regard to Item 5 he was a member of Sustrans, but that it did not constitute an interest.


Councillor Hayley Fletcher stated that with regard to Item 5 she was a member of Greenwich Cyclists, but that it did not constitute an interest.


Resolved –


That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies is noted.


Minutes pdf icon PDF 76 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 4 December 2012.


No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.


Resolved -


That the minutes of the meeting of the Sustainable Communities and Transport Scrutiny Panel held on 4 December 2012 are confirmed and signed as a true and accurate record.


Progress Report on Thames Path pdf icon PDF 54 KB

To receive an update on cycling provision on the length of the Thames Path in Royal Greenwich.


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The Chair noted that a cycling site visit had been conducted along the Thames Path the previous Saturday, and suggested that another cycling site visit be held in the summer.


The report was presented by the Transportation Planning and Strategy Manager and the Principal Transport Planner.  It was highlighted that Officers had worked hard to get a continuous route, and the Path compared favourably with those in other riverside boroughs.  There were issues with access at a few points but talks were on-going with land owners to gain or maintain access. Officers were to create a package of measures to inform people about the Path. Officers had since met with the Deputy Leader and they would be taking forward his recommendations regarding the Cutty Sark Gardens.  The Local Implementation Plan (LIP)provided a small pot of money for getting straightforward things done, for example, for servicing lighting.


An e-mail from a member of the public was circulated. Officers commented that certain areas of the path were rough, and there were issues in some areas with the gravel, however the Path was not going to be one continuous smooth area.


In response to questions from the Panel, Officers replied:

·        The Thames Path was wider than other comparable paths, such as the Regents’ Canal. Whilst the green tarmac path was for cyclists, pedestrians found it more comfortable to walk on.  It was recognised that if signage was not clear there might be conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, though it was only a small minority of cyclists who were badly behaved. Cycle logos were painted on the relevant parts of the Path but they became worn away over time. There was a debate about whether to segregate or share the Path. It was usually accepted that segregation was preferable when there were high flows of traffic, for example, as at Hyde Park. Where there was segregation signs would be displayed. Officers would be looking at signage in general and there was some money available for signage.

·        It was not possible to have a continuous cycle path by the riverside, for example, in the area of the ferry.  Where sections were inland they sought to keep it away from main roads.

·        The Path was inspected for dog fouling.

·        It was felt that the Path around the Dome would be unlikely to be used at night time.

·        Access at King Henry’s Wharf had been requested but the owners felt it could result in a conflict in their car park between their vehicles and the cyclists passing through; negotiations were on-going.  It was only possible to go through the Westminster Industrial Estate during the day time at the moment; negotiations were on-going. 

·        With regard to the Cutty Sark Gardens options the Deputy Leader had raised concerns regarding vehicle movements. Once the revisions were agreed the options would go out to wider consultation.

·        Section 106 Agreements were complex. Whether money was earmarked for a particular purpose or for a general commitment varied according to the development.  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.


Housing Asset Condition Survey – Update on Progress and Outcomes pdf icon PDF 88 KB

To receive an overview of progress made in developing the Housing Asset Condition Survey.



The report was presented by the Director of Housing.  The Director of Housing highlighted that the Best Value Review “Assumptions of the 30 Year Housing Capital Investment Programme” was currently looking at the matter of the housing stock; and that the Royal Borough was to procure a new Asset Management System called ‘Keystone’ in the new financial year. He added that it was important that, in future, they recorded where repairs were carried out, whereas historically this had not been done systematically.


Report back on introduction of ‘Keystone’ system in six months.

Action: DHS


In response to questions from the Panel, the Director of Housing replied

·        Greenwich was one of the few boroughs not to have hand held technology to report and record Asset Management data. He confirmed that the ‘Keystone’ system was compatible with Greenwich’s IT system.

·        The level of information the Council could provide on its stock was comparable with other boroughs. An external company recorded information; they had about 60% – 65% information on our stock which was recognised in the industry as providing approximately 90% - 95% accuracy/prediction regarding stock investment needs.

·        There was a commitment to have entry phones in all tower blocks over the next three years.


Detailed information to be circulated on stock assets and classification criteria.

Action: DHS


The business plan which is to be presented to next meeting of “BVR Reviewing the Assumptions of the 30 Year Housing Capital Programme” to be circulated to Panel Members.

Action: DHS


Resolved –


That the report be noted


Park Keeping Review and Budget Savings Update pdf icon PDF 52 KB

To receive an update on the progress of the Park Keeping Review and budget savings identified by the Medium Term Financial Strategy in 2010 for 2011-12 and 2012-13



The report was presented by the Head of Parks and Open Spaces.  The Head of Parks and Open Spaces clarified the aims of, and the timetable for, the Park Keeping Review.


In response to questions from the Panel, the Head of Parks and Open Spaces replied that Parks and Open Spaces were aware of the effect staff had on the Parks with regard to park safety and tidiness. Job descriptions and the roles of staff were being looked at with a view to rejuvenating the role of staff. Opening and closing times would also be considered. She confirmed that there had been consultation with the various Friends of Parks groups and other parks users. She added that they wanted greater involvement of schools in the Parks. She confirmed that the Parks worked in partnership with Cleansweep. She said that it would be too expensive to use CCTV in parks. She explained that agency staff had been used as an interim measure to meet agreed medium-term efficiency savings. Following changes in employment legislation the cost of agency staff had increased so they were seeking to reduce the number of agency staff and re-fill with permanent posts where possible. She confirmed that school aged work experience trainees were used, mainly in Maryon Wilson Park.


During discussion of the matter Members raised concerns about people being locked in parks at night and the potential effect of any reduction in park keeping.


Resolved –


That the report be noted.